[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

Micah micah at roarkplumbing.com
Thu Jan 18 17:33:54 PST 2007


Platt,

Yes we are in the universe, but "design" is a human mental concept that
exists in us, not in the universe. Mental concepts do not exist without
humans, only within them.


Micah


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Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:

> Probably been covered, but intelligence and behavior are human
> characteristics, and an atom is not organized, it is - we perceive the
> organization. Intelligence, behavior and organization is within us, not
> without us.
>
> "Intelligent Design" begs the question - compared to what other design?
> Again, the universe "is" - the design is within us.

Why separate us from the universe? Are we not in it? And why can't design
be in the universe other than in us?

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