[MD] A thread for mysticism and no one is allowed tomentionreligion

[ian glendinning]

Agreed already, when I said .. "As DMB says, there is a worthwhile
spiritual angle to what this perennial emerged metaphor means, if we
could ever get away from the
2000 year old debate of ....."

Nobody mention the F word either.
Go for it DMB.

Ian

On 1/19/07, David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> nice!
>
> David M
>
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> From: "Ron Kulp" <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>
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> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] A thread for mysticism and no one is allowed
> tomentionreligion
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>
> > Q: what did the mystic say to the hot dog vendor?
> > A: make me one with everything
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org
> > [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of David M
> > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:16 PM
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Subject: Re: [MD] A thread for mysticism and no one is allowed to
> > mentionreligion
> >
> > Hi DMB
> >
> > Good idea, I'm bored too. You kick us off and let's talk mysticism and
> > no one is to mention the R-word.How can mysticism enhance the MOQ?
> >
> > David M
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
> > To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)
> >
> >
> >> Squonk predicted dmb's relply:
> >> You retort: That's rubbish. Is that the best you can do?
> >>
> >> dmb says:
> >> Exactly. T'was a big fat bucket of face-saving weasle words. Thank you
> >
> >> very
> >> little.
> >>
> >> We all know that Pirsig has described the MOQ as anti-theistic. He's
> > said
> >> that only a mystic can rightly associate DQ and God. And nobody seems
> > to
> >> have an intelligent argument for theism. So why does the debate haunt
> > us?
> >> Why am I cast as the bad guy? For defending the obvious? Because I
> > believe
> >> nonsense shouldn't go unchallenged in a philosophy forum? If it
> > weren't
> >> for
> >> the efforts of various stubborn and defensive theists this whole
> > debate
> >> should have disappeared long ago.
> >>
> >> I'm with Arlo. I think we could really benefit from Joseph Campbell on
> >
> >> this
> >> topic and he illuminates Pirsig's work in other ways too. Wilber does
> >> mysticism too. But none of them are theists. I mean, there are
> > intelligent
> >> things to say about that "spiritual" dimension but we never get around
> > to
> >> that discussion because we're too busy bullshitting around with thing
> > like
> >> "intelligent design".
> >>
> >> What a waste.
> >>
> >> What a drag.
> >>
> >> sigh.
> >>
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