[MD] Terry Eagleton on Dawkin's God Delusion

[David M]

Hi Bo

Thanks for your sophisticated suggestions below,
sounds about right to me, we have the same sort
of clerics in the UK too, they seem a bit thinner
on the ground in the US. The way science has developed
in the Christian west is no co-incidence as you clearly 
understand, but the sort of broad knowledge to
recognise these high level cultural influences is 
not common. The focus on specialisation in
education seems to make such understanding
increasingly rare.

David M

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Subject: Re: [MD] Terry Eagleton on Dawkin's God Delusion


> Hi All 
> 
> On 18 Jan. Ian distributed Eagleton's thoughts on Dawkin's 
> thoughts on religion - perhaps he agrees with  Eagleton. I'll just 
> zoom in on this part.
> 
>> A molehill of instances out of a mountain of them will have to
>> suffice. Dawkins considers that all faith is blind faith, and that
>> Christian and Muslim children are brought up to believe
>> unquestioningly. 
> 
> First of all. "Religion" is a wide term, The West regards Buddhism 
> and Taoism as religions, but they have nothing in common with 
> the Semitic "sects"  Judaism, Islam and Christianity. There are 
> efforts to compare DQ with the  God of the said sects, but here I 
> agree with DMB who rejects this. 
> 
> Now, of the three, Christendom has moved farthest away from its 
> roots - which in a MOQ light is the social level - because of the 
> Christ figure who IMO had picked up the SOM/Intellectual signals 
> from the Greeks and began the same processs in the heartland of 
> Judaism. A most difficult task as we know. 
> 
> Lutheranism has brought this process farthest while Catholicism 
> lags behind as and certainly wants people to believe 
> unquestioningly. Around here, in Scandinavia there are now 
> clerics who don't believe in God and I hope this trend will move 
> further and bring Christendom closer to a kind of Western 
> Buddhism.  
> 
> But to achieve this the intellectual level has to be transcended for 
> the meta-level of the MOQ. In my opinion the MOQ is a better 
> "buddhism" than Zen because of the West's long sojourn on the 
> intellectual (SOM) level, one that the orientals just had a touch-
> and-go experience with before turning "mystics". 
> 
> IMO
> 
> Bo     
> 
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