[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)
Case
Case at iSpots.com
Sun Jan 21 15:12:37 PST 2007
[David M]
Go back and see what you put. You said that we construct an imaginary
reality from sense-input and then check correspondence to the real world,
but where do you access the real world as the only 'world' you have is your
imagined/conceptual one? This is the problem with a correspondence theory,
dittto Rorty. Now you appeal to a reality that you bang into and do not need
to conceptually construct. Get your story straight will you! Do you have a
world prior to this construction perhaps?
[Case]
Sorry, I generally only respond to the comments made or commented on.
We all deal with the reality we construct. We do not have direct contact
with the external world. Pirsig explains this as well as anyone in his
discussion of Hume and Kant in ZMM. So in a sense we are looking for
consistency in our representations, that is, the wall is were I thought it
was last time I thought about it.
I have maintained that our reconstructions are OF something external, TiTs
if you will. But I see the difficulty in proving this. I accept that TiTs
exists external to my thoughts mostly because I really don't think I am
clever enough or neurotic enough to have constructed a reality quite like
this one.
[David M]
We have to deal with the other worldly all the time: the past, the future,
the possible, the potential, the emergent, the non-present, what is hidden
from us in the Other, how we give borders to the actual, so that everything
non-actual is other worldly, death, birth, creativity, destruction, the
imagined, mathematical exploration, etc. Of course it's all real, but not
always actual. But alot of our lives are bound up with these non-actual
otherworldly entities. Think how much your dream girl messes with your
actual life.
[Case]
The other worldly example you give are the products of our imaginations, the
interactions of our internal representations. These exist in this world.
They are a product of it and depend upon it. They are not other worldly in
the least. I would defer to James in this regard.
As for my dream girl she is real enough as and she mess with me in my actual
world everyday no matter what I think. She is kind of a reality check for
me.
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