[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

[David M]

Hi SA

There are ways to draw these boudaries and we can agree on them.
There is a shared world of the actual we can agree we both experience,
there is stuff in my inner sphere you cannot experience and in
your's for me.If I stay here and you go into the value you cease
being experienced by my in the shared space-time sphere.
Dreams have features that the shared space-time sphere
lacks and vice versa. But just because there are many
spheres of reality no reason to strip any of presence
or reality as metaphysics has generally done.

David M


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From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)


>     [David M.]
>> We have to deal with the other worldly
>> allthe time: the past, the future,the possible,
>> the potential, the emergent, the non-present,
>> what is hidden from us in the Other, how we
>> give borders to the actual, so that everything
>> non-actual is other worldly, death, birth,
>> creativity, destruction, the imagined, mathematical
>> exploration, etc. Of course it's all real, but not
>> always actual. But alot of our lives are bound up
> with
>> these non-actual otherworldly entities. Think how
> much
>> your dream girl messes with your actual life.
>
>
>     How are you differentiating dream from this
> world?  A dream exists here, now, in this world.  You
> seem to be just separating this world with boundaries
> that you made up, like political boundaries, imagined
> paint lines on a piece of paper.  Past, future,
> possible, etc... all of these happen here.  Other
> worldly seems to be a metaphor for not present now,
> according to you, yet, I believe in the one-long-now.
> Of course, I can delineated a past and future, but
> these happen here and now.  You mention a non-actual.
> What is that?  For instance, you mention death.  Is
> not death just a change?  Is not death something over
> the hill where I can't see?  But, once I'm over the
> hill, won't I just see another valley?
>
>
> evening, icy rain, ice on the road, grass, branches,
> SA
>
>
>
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