[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Mon Jan 22 14:55:43 PST 2007
Quoting Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>:
> [Arlo]
> But why do you think Pirsig mentions the Buddha and the
> Tao repeatedly in ZMM? Could it be that these "ethics" more closely
> mirror Quality than Occidental ethics?
Looking forward to your description of Tao ethics.
> [Platt]
> No. I answer as possibilities the existence of Consciousness and
> Quality as creative forces. I gather you disagree with Pirsig on that
> score while you pander to scientism.
>
> [Arlo]
> Can you refer me to where Pirsig proposes the existence of a
> "transcendent consciousness"?
I never claimed he does.
> I gather you disagree with Pirsig on
> his statement that the MOQ is "anti-theistic" while you continue to
> pander to Christianity.
I don't dismiss the possibility of God as Pirsig does, nor do I "pander" to
Christianity. That's just another example of your effort to distort what I say.
Anyway, I see much value in Christian ethics as do many here, including yourself.
> [Platt]
> No. I consider Consciousness and Quality to be "natural processes."
>
> [Arlo]
> Not if they are "transcendent".
Transcendent means "beyond comprehension," as are many natural processes.
> [Platt]
> And the rest is just a fabrication of my views to meet your own
> desperate need to demean others to build up your own ego.
>
> [Arlo]
> Got a mirror handy, Platt?
I take that as acceptance of my assessment.
> [Platt]
> Amusingly, you call for "dropping it" only to follow a few minutes
> later with more commentary. Oh well, I understand why it's hard for
> you to let go.
>
> [Arlo]
> Yes, your excrutiatingly distortive remarks are hard to leave go unanswered.
You've admitted to "oops" i.e., "luck" as an explanation a number of times.
Check the archives.
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