[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

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Quoting ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com>:

> Platt, Arlo, Mark, Case, Matt,
> 
> Platt questioned Arlo
> > So Quality is just a figure of speech?
> 
> Not sure the word "just" helps Platt, but that aside, yes.
> See my reply to Case about how it mattered little whether assertions
> concerning quality (making things happen) were literal or
> metaphorical.
> 
> Mark questioned Matt's idealism, when Matt had said
> "*ALL* is metaphor; analogue upon analogue, etc"
> (paraphrasing out of context - sorry)
> My summary of Lakoff and Johnson said that whilst many metaphors are
> "dead" and we feel the words are symbols of some tangible reality when
> we use them, most if not all are ultimately metaphorical, which is not
> surprising if one accepts ineffable quality as that ultimate basis.
> 
> But there is no "just" about it. It is the case.

Question. Are metaphors (words) real?

Thanks.

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