[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

ian glendinning psybertron at gmail.com
Tue Jan 23 14:06:51 PST 2007


Arlo .... (and Marsha)

Like, there are two choices ...

(Marsha, you watching ?)

Ian

On 1/22/07, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:
> [Arlo previously]
> But try to tell me that YOUR God is the right God, and MY God is the
> wrong God, and I should live my life according to what YOUR God says,
> and I will condemn it every time. I no more want a Taliban to tell me
> I have to live according to Islamic law than I want a Christian
> Coalition telling me I have to live by Judeo-Christian law.
>
> [DM]
> Here's my problem, you are talking to me, I've never said a word of
> religious dogmatism and off you go, who are you trying to convince,
> it's not me.
>
> [Arlo]
> No, its not you. Never said, nor meant to imply, it was.
>
> [Arlo previously]
> You want Christian law. Fine. Let's go through the Bible step-by-step
> and make it all law.
>
> [DM]
> No thanks. Not a Christian.
>
> [Arlo]
> This was a rhetorical question, and not directly at you.
>
> [DM]
> I think if we want new values we have to walk the walk, there's
> little to gain from criticising others, that may just kick off their
> defensiveness.
>
> [Arlo]
> And you are probably right. But every time Platt writes "oops" it
> makes my skin crawl. Like there are two choices, "oops" or "God". And
> no matter how many times anyone tries to push a third or fourth
> possibility, if its NOT "God", its right back to "oops". Its the same
> with "purpose". It either comes from being "designed", or you get
> accused of proposing "life has no purpose". Two choices. And you try
> to punch your way out of the dichotomy, only to see yet another post
> saying "oops" and "Arlo believes life is purposeless". No matter what
> I write about spirit, mysticism and Zen, I am accused of being an
> "atheist" and likened to Pol Pot. Despite Pirsig's depth of insight
> about Native American Indians, say anything about them and you get
> the "dashed brains" retort and nothing else. Despite the entirety of
> ZMM that provides a Buddhistic or Taoist read of Quality, I get inane
> statements like "no one has ever shown an ethical system that is
> better than Judeo-Christian". Criminey! Nonetheless, I appreciate the advice.
>
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