[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

Wed Jan 24 05:57:46 PST 2007

Jos,

Please elaborate on the paradox for me. I can't know.

Micah

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Absoultely, it's a paradox implied by your post, made explicit by mine.

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>
> Jos,
>
> We place quality on objects through anthropomorphizing
> (spelling?), objects
> just are - how and what they are is within us, not without
> us. We are the
> subject.
>
> Isn't saying "humans can't know" a form of knowing, and therefore
> contradictory?
>
> Micah
>
>
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> Jos (OSPT)
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:49 AM
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>
>
> Hi Platt, Micah,
>
> > Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:
>
> > > What "quality" isn't human? What "behavior" isn't human.
> > Remember these are
> > > human concepts placed on objects and animals by humans.
>
> If you think that quality is "placed by a human" you are
> implying a dualism.
> Do you see this man/value split as any different from a subject/object
> divide?
>
> > > Intelligence is what we say it is, nothing else defines
> > reality, only
> > > humans.
>
> So if, (as a human) I say "humans can't know" am I right?
>
> Jos
>
>
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