[MD] Christian Ethics and U.S. Law

[Ron Kulp]

Hey Platt, 
While I have you,I wanted to say that
I admire the way you make no bones about how you feel, and yes
aggression should be repelled and yes the indiginous
Culture was way behind in the war making area, even their concept of war
was different and to a large extent nieve.
I agree the Romantasizing of Native culture gets in the way of serious
social enquirey figures like Rousseau pioneered such
Ideas about social conscience way before Pirsig and his Peyote smokin
quality trip (it's eaten by th by) so these ideas
Are rooted deeper than just some english prof idealist ramblings on
peyote (which may incidentally have had a hand in his "insanity")
Peyote is a very powerfull haloucenegen, like LSD.. Some people are fine
some are locked in a phsyc ward. It is taken in cerimony only after
Long mental preparation and even then only at the discretion of the
elders.
But.. I have a question for you, if you think that god favors the just ,
(metaphorically speaking, I know your'e not that absolute)
Do you also feel by that reasoning that Islam has some legitamcy? Simply
because it has survived till now?

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Quoting Ron Kulp <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>:

>   [Platt]
> > Keep in mind that Indian tribes also fought one another and devised 
> > exquisite forms of torture, not to mention the practice of scalping.
> 
> Northern Europe
> Scalps were taken in wars between the Visigoths, the Franks and the 
> Anglo-Saxons in the 9th century according to the writings of Abbot 
> Emmanuel H. D. Domenech. His sources included the decalvare of the 
> ancient Germans, the capillos et cutem detrahere of the code of the 
> Visigoths, and the Annals of Flodoard.

Just goes to show there are barbarians all over the world in all eras.

> [Platt]
> As I said, for a group that "got it right" they must have blown it, 
> considering where they are today.
> 
> And if they slit the pilgrims throats and sent them back to england in

> their own blood instead of feeding them those first few winters Where 
> do you think you'd be right now?

The settlers at Johnstown were slaughtered, but still others came.

> Yes, kindness and compassion for
> strangers was the undoing of the Native culture...you totally Have it.

> And th's not sarcasim....I would imagine it baffeling to one just why 
> they did not just kill every european that set foot On the shores of 
> north america? Just on the fact they're different alone..not to 
> mention the stink and bad manners.

Yes, I hope we would try to repel invaders today who wanted to take over
the country, regardless of their odor or manners.



 





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