[MD] A time for Nihilism...

[MarshaV]

At 05:20 PM 1/29/2007, you wrote:
>[Arlo previously]
>Pagan views of the feminine typically revolve around three centers or
>archetypes; mother, maiden, whore, crone.
>
>[Marsha]
>That's maiden, mother & crone.  Don't know where the 'whore' came
>from.  And, by the way, I am a young crone.
>
>[Arlo]
>A number of sources of I have cite "whore" in this list of
>archetypes. Of course, "whore" simply means "sexually alive" while
>"maiden" denotes vestigal innocence. Remember that as Christianity
>cleansed the world of paganism, "whore" was applied to any woman who
>engages in sex to someone who is not her husband. Can you think of a
>male-similar word? Other than "stud"? Paganism did not think of "sex"
>as evil, vile or dirty. Remember the Dionysians. Sex was Holy. It was
>the Christians who came along and said "you bad, bad dirty little whore"....

Greetings,

Arlo, I apologize. I thought you were talking about the trinity, or 
three stages of a woman's life: maiden, mother and crone.  A woman 
can be sexually active in all stages, and therefore considered a 
whore at any time.  But you were speaking of archetypes, and there 
are many.  I, for instance, like the queen of de-nial.

Even the language seems to be lost.  When DMB challenged my post on 
Lila's soliloquy, I was stuck.  I had suggested that Lila was a 
symbol for Life, Love, Freedom, the dynamic side of life, but he had 
me trapped.  If I tried to explain it, I would sound like the perfect 
nut case.  The lyrics, though, of the Dylan song were perfect.    I 
wasn't just being a smartass.

I hope this group find the words to continue this discussion in other 
threads.  I think Ron is adding something exciting and dynamic.  I 
think the Indians will be perfect, but don't forget women.  We might 
think (if allowed) planning for the seventh generation a quality 
approach to governmental planning.

Have you seen the movie 'The Tango Lesson', by Sally Potter.  It's a 
great movie.

m