[MD] Quality decline
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Tue Jul 3 04:03:25 PDT 2007
Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:
>
> [Platt]
> > There needs to be a balance between Dynamic and
> > static with the emphasis on
> > maintaining a fulcrum of opportunity that allows for
> > tipping in the direction
> > of the Dynamic. (Hope the metaphor works.)
>
> Reality is static quality with dynamic quality.
> There doesn't need to be this - there is this. It is
> society and intellect that are not open to this when
> degenerate process are at work. So, what have I said?
> All generalities.
Balance with openness to DQ is the ideal. As Pirsig pointed out, socialism
closes the door on DQ will capitalism (free market) keeps it open -- with
benefits for all.
> [Platt]
> > Marxism had more to do with economics than free
> > expression although it's tendency
> > towards totalitarianism puts a kibosh on free
> > speech, too. As for celebrity, Pirsig
> > has a lot of interesting things to say about it,
> > especially its role as a force
> > for social cohesion. It may be with America so
> > politically divided that the
> > rise of celebrity worship is a consequence -- a
> > means of fostering unity.
>
> Platt, that is an outstanding remark! Specific,
> and I'm leaning towards your on point here. No wonder
> celebrities make the news alongside politicans. What
> celebrities are doing is thought of as fun and not so
> heady. When Paris Hilton was placed into jail, out of
> jail, in jail, I still couldn't get out of my head
> that the whole episode was like a movie due to her
> being on TV so much. It's difficult to digest when a
> celebrity gets into trouble, say for instance Martha
> Stewart. I mean she was so motherly and likeable on
> TV, right? She couldn't possible get into trouble.
> Get my drift. The celebrity doesn't only FOSTER
> unity, a celebrity IS unity. A celebrity is a model,
> a social ideal. At least, this is what I'm seeing
> with your comment here Platt. Something along these
> lines, maybe? If these fun loving people whom many
> let into their home on a daily basis get into trouble
> it's hard to believe these celebrities can be like
> that. Now what of Paris Hilton with the sex tapes and
> drinking parties. That's the popular thing to do
> now-a-days, right? Especially with the teenagers and
> population in their twenties. She's just doing what
> they do or want to do, right?
Right. The role models for today's female teenagers are Madonna, Britney and
Paris -- a sure sign of Quality decline. But I'm glad your agree with Pirsig's
insight that celebrity is a unifying force, particularly useful in today's
culture where political divisions are far apart and arouse strong passions
(see Arlo's posts). In other words, I agree with your comments.
Have a nice day.
Platt
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