[MD] metaphysics, substance, intellect

[Ron Kulp]

[Joe]
For 
> myself I see value determined in an octave relationship, rather than
only 
> the 4 levels of organic, inorganic, social, intellectual proposed by 
> Pirsig.

[Ron]

To tie in Joe's octave theory with my previous post, sound is considered
a low frequency
energy emission and atomic electron/proton orbitals are now being viewed
as quantum vibrating
oscillations somwhat like string theory. The term which encompasses all
of them and Pirsigs levels
is the inter-relatedness and the concept of how it functions together.
To view reality as inter-related
forms of energy and not so much as what we commonly concieve of
evolution and the linear perception of time.

I would like to hear your thoughts on the six zero's and how you
divide elements by zero?
I'm still not sure I understand this idea.
Thanks

 



----- Original Message ----
From: Jared M <TE at transcendentethos.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2007 2:30:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] metaphysics, substance, intellect


Joe,

Your individualizam has captured my intrigue.  will you expand upon your
ocataval idea regarding the ralationship of values?

Jared
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Maurer" <jhmau at sbcglobal.net>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] metaphysics, substance, intellect


> On Friday 6 July 2007 10:41:34 PM Jared M writes to Joe (and all)
>
> thanks for such a warm welcome.
> preficing your response with "IMO" indicates a certain dynamic
quality.
> therefore i submit to you the following ideas; cutting an other edge
of
> reality.
>
> 1.) the periodic table is a useful way to illustrate physical value 
> relationships.
> it has great static quality.
>
> 2.) life/evolution is a process that manifests itself as a queer, 
> seemingly anti-entropic phenomenon that the constituent "value 
> relationships" (matter/stuff) described in the table convey.the table 
> is a result of evolution; homosapiens, a result of evolution, created 
> the table and therefore it shall not deny it.
>
> my interjection of Emerson's essay is meant to inspire discussion of
the
> transcendental or "dynamic quality" correlation between two brilliant 
> philosophers, disparate only by time (one hundred years.)
>
> Hi Jared and all,
>
> Hey!  Thanks for your input, and welcome!
>
> IMO Pirsig proposed evolution as the basis of morality in that if the 
> higher level destroys the lower level it destroys itself by stopping 
> evolution. If the lower level destroys the higher level it denies its
own 
> existence and will cease to exist as a level.
>
> The periodic table is a numbers game where you cannot divide by 0. In
the 
> language game of evolution proposed by Pirsig 0 divides the levels. 
> Aristotle proposed prime matter as almost 0. The ?transcendental?
accepts 
> a mind-body split which leads to a subjective objective division of 
> thought. For Pirsig objective, subjective depends on value not mind.
For 
> myself I see value determined in an octave relationship, rather than
only 
> the 4 levels of organic, inorganic, social, intellectual proposed by 
> Pirsig.
>
> Joe
>
>
> Joe,(and all)
> thanks for such a warm welcome.
> preficing your response with "IMO" indicates a certain dynamic
quality.
> therefore i submit to you the following ideas;  cutting an other edge
of
> reality.
>
> 1.) the periodic table is a useful way to illustrate physical value 
> relationships.
> it has great static quality.
>
> 2.) life/evolution is a process that manifests itself as a queer, 
> seemingly anti-entropic phenomenon that the constituent "value 
> relationships"  (matter/stuff) described in the table convey.
> the table is a result of evolution; homosapiens, a result of
evolution,
> created the table and therefore it shall not deny it.
>
> my interjection of Emerson's essay is meant to inspire discussion of
the
> transcendental or "dynamic quality" correlation between two brilliant 
> philosophers, disparate only by time (one hundred years.)
>
>
> -jared
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