[MD] Quality decline in U.S. politics
Platt Holden
pholden at davtv.com
Mon Jul 16 19:40:48 PDT 2007
> [Platt]
> Follow me closely: I do not think that interracial marriage should be
> decided by the states. Why? Because the Supreme Court has decided
> otherwise. I support Supreme Court decisions. Otherwise, anarchy.
>
> [Arlo]
> This is a bit of doublespeak, Platt. You favor "interracial marriage"
> because the Supreme Court has okayed it. Does that mean if the Supreme
> Court okays "gay marriage" you'd be in favor of it as well?
Yes. For the reason I cited. How many times do I have to repeat myself
before you get it?
> If not, why do you support a Supreme Court ruling on "interracial
> marriage" but not "gay marriage"? Why, on one hand, do you support a
> Federal authority usurping state's rights, and on the other say the
> "state should decide"? They are both about marriage? Is "interracial
> marriage" more of a "natural right" than "gay marriage"?
I always defer to the states to decide legal questions except when the
Supreme Court and/or the Constitution specially holds otherwise. For
example, states cannot decide to reinstitute slavery.
> [Platt]
> Figures. How about allowing polygamy? If not, why not?.
>
> [Arlo]
> More doublespeak. If allowing the Supreme Court to rule on "gay
> marriage" leads into the polygamy argument, then why not its ruling
> on "interracial marriage"?
>
> When the Supreme Court overturned state's rights and guaranteed
> "interracial marriages", did you say "how about polygamy" then?
Nice attempt to duck.the question. Again, if gay marriage is OK why not
polygamy?
> [Platt]
> Only you would associate gay marriage with out-of-wedlock births.
> Truly hilarious.
>
> [Arlo]
> Again, your comment showing your association stands. Nice rhetorical
> attempt here though.
>
> [Platt]
> Better to be free to do the things I choose than become a serf in
> Marx's dictatorship.
>
> [Arlo]
> What if I don't want to be "free" just to do the things _you_ choose? As
> for the serf/Marx nonsense, I'll pass.
If you don't want to be free like me, that's OK. As for Marx/serf, of
course you'll pass, ignoring the historical record.
> [Platt]
> Just a friendly reminder of the historical record your idol Marx has
> spawned.
>
> [Arlo]
> Again, not Marx. Lenin adopting neoconservative state nationalism,
> which became the sole end of the latter regimes of Stalin, et al.
Where do you think Lenin got his ideas about and justification for
dictatorship?
> [Arlo had said]
> By the way, gays could not marry in Stalinist Russia, or Pol Pot's
> Cambodia either.
>
> [Arlo]
> I think its fairly clear.
Again, ducked my question. (In fact, left it out completely.) To repeat.
What's your point?
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