[MD] Limits of freedom:

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:

>      I'm a shiny spinner kind of fish - peew!...
> splash... hmmm, this cloudy day with rain, the water's
> much warmer.
> 
> SA 

I assume you don't want to answer my questions. That's your privilege.

Have a nice day,

Platt


> 
> > SA asks:
> > 
> > >       Platt, why do you like to discuss nudity so
> > > much?
> > 
> > It's limits of freedom I like to discuss. Nudity
> > happened to be in the 
> > news today. I thought it was an interesting jumping
> > off point for that 
> > discussion. I'm sorry if you find it offensive in
> > some way..
> > 
> > > This is another topic, that if Arlo involves
> > > himself, that can go on and on, with questions not
> > > being answered, challenges being made, possible
> > > immoral slandering, etc, etc...  I've seen it
> > before
> > > here.  Direct experience on the intellectual
> > level. 
> > > We all can check the archives on this topic,
> > unless
> > > your casting your hook for possible newbies or
> > oldies.
> > 
> > That's why we call this forum isn't it? Of course,
> > smearing  those
> > who disagree with you is uncalled for in a civilized
> > discussion. But if 
> > that's the game some want to play, I'm not going to
> > run and hide. 
> >  
> > >  I agree with Marsha.  The body doesn't have to be
> > put
> > > in check by social level patterns, always.
> > 
> > Agree. "Always" is the operative word.
> > 
> > > I mean
> > > we're talking about nudity - basic biological
> > patterns
> > > of value.  Now, isn't it what the biological
> > patterns
> > > of value are doing that has the social level find
> > a
> > > need to intervene or not.  Is it what these nudest
> > > people are doing that you don't like, or is it
> > > biological patterns themselves that you think
> > social
> > > patterns must always intervene upon?
> >  
> > As Pirsig says, social patterns are necessary to
> > restrain biological 
> > patterns. (I don't think he meant "always.") I agree
> > with Pirsig. 
> > Do you?
> > 
> > Are you questioning whether nudity is a biological
> > value?
> > 
> > Are you questioning the morality of temporary ban on
> > public nudity and 
> > limit of freedom  passed by officials in
> > Brattleboro? 
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Have a nice day. 
> > 
> > 
> > > woods,
> > > SA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >      [Platt]
> > > > >In several posts recently the question of
> > limits on
> > > > freedom (state
> > > > >governance) has come up. In Vermont there has
> > > > "emerged" :-) a classic case
> > > > >about freedom to parade down main street in the
> > > > nude. For the story, see:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1823185120070718?feedType
> > > >=
> > > > >RSS&rpc=22&sp=true
> > > > >With the MOQ moral levels in mind, do you think
> > the
> > > > restriction on public nudity is justified? To me
> > > it's a case of social
> > > > level patterns keeping biological patterns in
> > check.
> > > 
> > >      [Marsha]
> > > > Having spent many, many hours in life study
> > classes,
> > > > I find the body 
> > > > endlessly fascinating and beautiful.  I've spent
> > > > more than a few 
> > > > hours being nude at the beaches in Spain, I
> > don't
> > > > understand the problem.
> > > > 
> > > > Marsha
> > 
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