[MD] [Moq_Discuss] Aristotle & DQ

[MarshaV]

At 10:33 PM 7/24/2007, Ham wrote:
>Existential facts are always divided between the subject and the object(s).
>That's because we are beings-aware, and that for anything to exist it must
>be experienced.  Existence is a self/other dichotomy.  But this does not
>mean that reality is limited to what we experience.  And this is where you
>and Hoffman miss the boat.  Without an uncreated source, there would be no
>existence, no you, no screen, no UTOE.  Our friend Pirsig also seems to have
>missed this point, as Marsha has quoted him as saying "Dualism dissolves in
>the light of [Noether's theorem] for all (including space and consciousness)
>is energy."  I asked Jos rhetorically if that included Quality.  Maybe for
>Pirsig it does.  Maybe energy is Pirsig's primary source. (I wonder if
>anybody has ever asked him.)

Ham,

The MOQ is about events and process, not subject and object.

Marsha