[MD] American moral complex

[Heather Perella]

     [SA previously]
> >Do we need problems to solve?  Do we need problems
> to spur a philosophical discussion?


     [Marsha]
> How about a great curiosity?


     A great curiosity about nothing (dq)?  What is
there to know about static patterns?  We know what the
levels are.  We don't always know where, or have the
knowledge as to where some static patterns belong
(which level?).  Yet, these certain static patterns,
as to what level do they belong, is it a question of
change?  I think these static patterns are
degenerative or morally bettering themselves, thus, no
longer in one distinct level.  So, the indecision as
to what level seems to be based upon not only problems
(degenerative spv movements), but solutions (morally
better spv's)?  
     I don't know what to be curious about?  It is all
right here, right now.  No seeking for something.  
     Are problems the heat on the stove?  To get U.S.
revolutionaries to show up for their trainings those
in charge gave beer parties afterwards.  To have
participants at meetings about plans to change how the
U.S. will relate with England in those days, the
meetings were held at taverns a lot.  So, people would
show up (the beer was key).  I'm not saying we need
beer or heat, but is that what we are doing here. 
Revealing problems and then solving them
intellectually?  Pirsig mentions in the sailboating
article how social issues can be solved with Quality. 
Nicholas Maxwell calls for a Intellectual Revolution
due to the failure of the Enlightenment to apply the
scientific, intellectual rational effectively in
society to help induce a civilized, enlightened
society.  Social knowledge in the Enlightened period
veered off course, and it became about collecting
social knowledge/Baconian facts.  Nicholas Maxwell
points out that social knowledge just to be collected
is where science used upon the social level became
incomplete.  The intellect is to help the social
level.    

woods,
SA 


       
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