[MD] Drama with Nicholas Maxwell

Tue Jul 31 09:01:11 PDT 2007

If I'm enslaved by the rule that tells me I'm wise to treat "rules" as guidance, that makes me a fool right?

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> glendinning
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> Subject: Re: [MD] Drama with Nicholas Maxwell
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> 
> Hi SA, no takers for this thread ?
> 
> Great to see Maxwell being picked-up.
> 
> Incidentally, you writing about your workplace experience of newcomers
> joing the local "culture" ... I also wrote some very similar words
> about my then current workplace when I did my Masters thesis. There is
> a copy on-line, but I'll try and dig out the relevant bits.
> 
> Agreed. Rule are for the guidance of wise men an the the enslavement
> of fools (only). I may have said.
> 
> Ian
> 
> On 7/28/07, Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >     I've brought this thread up from time to time,
> > but now I'm reading Nick Maxwell's "Basic Argument for
> > the Need of an Intellectual Revolution" and find kin
> > to his social inquiry.  This quote of his from the
> > article, "Academic thought would be pursued as a
> > specialized, subordinate part of what is really
> > important and fundamental: the thinking that goes on,
> > individually, socially and institutionally, in the
> > social world, guiding individual, social and
> > institutional actions and life."
> >     This fits with the intellectual level guiding the
> > social level in the MOQ.
> >     I've written about where I work, which is in the
> > heart of facing social problems on an applicatory,
> > first-hand type experience.  Every single person that
> > enters this workplace as a new staff is asked to
> > observe for a week or two.  Just watch what happens,
> > then begin to step in when one is sure what needs to
> > happen so the participating of the new staff is
> > helpful and correct - for the residents will go after
> > you in every way they know how.  They are not only
> > sneaky and physically aggressive at times, but they
> > also KNOW the routine - or will try to change the
> > routine especially in a manipulative way with new
> > staff.  In time the new staff enters the social
> > experience, and after some months, hopefully, a leader
> > and competent.  In the face of chaos, and the daily
> > changes that occur where new ideas MUST be generated
> > in the midst of this dynamism, for even though I'm a
> > supervisor and have been at the place almost two years
> > I let the staff know that I'm winging it at times.
> > The other day a decision needed to be made, quickly,
> > and so with my experience of the place and seeing all
> > the factors involved quickly pass through my
> > perspective as I stood there quietly for less then 3
> > seconds - I made a decision and let the staff know
> > right on the spot that I just made that decision up.
> > I remember one staff saying, "Oh, I didn't know if it
> > was a rule somewhere on paper or what."  Another staff
> > wasn't sure of the rule either.  There was NO rule,
> > but with the circumstances of the place and the
> > residents involved, the law, court systems, other
> > well-established routines and rules, this decision
> > need not usurp other existing patterns in a
> > degenerative way, but a decision needed to be made,
> > right then, at the moment - right now!
> >
> > woods,
> > SA
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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