[MD] Alternatives to the scientific method

[Ron Kulp]

[Ham]
I'm pleased to hear that.  By the way, Richard Schain, a neurologist,
has some interesting things to say about the issue of subjectivity in
Science. 
I'm repeating his essay calling for a "radical metaphysics" in this
week's 
Values Page www.essentialism.net/balance.htm.   I think you might find
it 
enlightening.  When you've read that, click on "A New Theory of the
Universe" in the archives listing at the bottom of this page, and you'll
get another neuoscience perspective by Robert Lanza.  I'd like to know
what you think of these two essays.

Thanks, Ron.

[Ron]
Thank you for the excellent essays. I see no conflict with Pirsigs
thoughts on the subject. In fact
in several instances they make the same points. I think some of the
confusion arises from the fact
that Pirsig approaches this subject from a materialists perpective but
concludes to the very same point
about subjectivity.
I feel this quote from Robert Lanza sums up how I envision consciousness
rather well.

"Space and time, not proteins and neurons, hold the answer to the
problem of consciousness.  When we consider the nerve impulses entering
the brain, we realize that they are not woven together automatically,
any more than the information is inside a computer.  Our thoughts have
an order, not of themselves, but because the mind generates the
spatio-temporal relationships involved in every experience.  We can
never have any experience that does not conform to these relationships,
for they are the modes of animal logic that mold sensations into
objects.  It would be erroneous, therefore, to conceive of the mind as
existing in space and time before this process, as existing in the
circuitry of the brain before the understanding posits in it a
spatio-temporal order.  The situation, as we have seen, is like playing
a CD-the information leaps into three-dimensional sound, and in that
way, and in that way only, does the music indeed exist."

Consciousness is real in this way, belief is a fundemental mental form
used in relating to reality.
these conceptual indentities are key to understanding anything at all.
Which one we develop and how
 it is developed, guide and influence perception of reality. The more
developed the form the more
confidence in our decisions and actions. It is truly a subjective matter
of inner development.
 
To postulate that consciousness emerges from the objective, I feel, in
no way lessens the
importance of spirituality and belief. For anyone to use this as proof
for the meaninglessness
of spirit is being foolish at best. It still plays a chief role in self
actualization and
I would think be pivitol in the phsycological make up of an individual.

 Does the simple act of belief enable a thing to exist? I say, sure
does. 

This ties into the complimentarity concept of "many truths",  which
truth is more relevent
depends on the context of the truth being sought.

Thanks Ham







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