[MD] Drama with Nicholas Maxwell
Heather Perella
spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 31 15:38:15 PDT 2007
[Ian]
> The rules quip is meant to suggest that those who
> think rules are hard and fast, are the fools.
I would say to learn and understand the rules,
even applying them very strictly will help one
understand 'what' boundaries can be broken. The rules
help with consistency, but once we understand 'what'
the rules do for the overall event, during
application, then these rules plus all else found in
the event (for example what are we ruling/organizing)
we can see how these rules interplay during the event.
People are not rule-bound. Rules and organization
will lead to different events depending upon the
person/people involved. People bring into an
organization (the rules) their own character. Rocks
will flow downriver, larger rocks not as much as
smaller rocks, but in a big storm the larger rocks
that don't usually move will move possibly crushing a
smaller rock into pieces and now those pieces are
moving down river at a much faster rate, etc... The
event is dynamic. It has static patterns involved in
dynamic events, but the rules are changing depending
upon all involved at the moment.
[Ian]
> Wise (pragmatic) men/women understand that
> they are really just for guidance, and bend /
> interpret / them accordingly. (There is some debate
about where the
> adage originates but Doug Bader the legless air-ace
is attributed
> with using it - to justify flying a plane with no
feet on the pedals.)
> There are endless paradoxical corrolaries of the
> "rule" as Jos spotted - like you probably wouldn't
want fools
> breaking the rules anyway. ie
> breaking the rules is not in itself a sign of being
> wise - oh no siree.
Yes, it depends on knowing the rule, and springing
off of the rule to use the rule for a desired outcome.
What is structure/organization/rules channeling
anyways? A certain event I would say. If the event
is degenerating the organization and changing the
organization away from what the organization is to
organize, then chaos. Now changing rules for
generative reasons is dynamic. We understand this.
[Ian]
> I'll come back to you on the other references.
Ok.
[Ian]
> Incidentally I'm just reading a 1975 "Oui" interview
> with Pirsig. In response to a question about why
there is so much
> argument about what is true or good he says "The
good is not
> something that can be captured in a little box of
dialectic .... The
> idea that something is rigidly true leads to an
irretractable conflict"
Yes. Where is this "Oui" interview by the way?
Is it located on the internet?
thanks.
shade grows,
SA
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