[MD] Pirsig and TITs

[Krimel]

dmb says:
Huh? The world transcends experience? I thought the MOQ asserts 
approximately the opposite. It equates experience with reality. Anything 
outside of experience is pure fiction. Isn't that the basic idea of radical 
empiricism; reality is limited to experience and no experience is excluded 
from reality. You can't ignore anything nor make anything up. I find this to

be exceedingly reasonable.

A transcendent world? I think Krimel was right to conjure up Kant's 
things-in-themselves.

[Krimel]
I should not be repeating myself like this, but this is a  slightly edited
version of what I just posted to DM in the cyberspace thread. I think it
applies:

I whole heartedly agree that all we have is our individual experience, our
individual realities. But I am equally willing to say, purely as a matter of
faith, that I believe we have experience "OF" something. That our realities
are constructed as representations "OF" something. Call it TiTs. Call it
objectivity. Call it Other. 

When the Hindus speak of Maya and the world as illusion I would say they are
referring to the confusion we experience when we confuse our individual
representation with that indefinable stuff that is independent of us. I like
to think of it as DQ.