[MD] The Trouble With Wilber

[david buchanan]

dmb quoted Wilber:
"Piaget's studies are pivotal, of course... he showed that reality is not 
simply given but is in many important ways constructed;...

DM replied:
Isn't that just right, and what do we get when we have a reality that is not 
just given, we have one that transcends the given.

dmb says:
No, the collaspe of the myth of the given leaves us with a reality that is 
inherently interpretive rather than objective. We're basically talking about 
a rejection of realism. Pirsig and Rorty share this much too, of course.

What do you mean by a reality that "transcends the given"? That phrase looks 
like nonsense to me.

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