[MD] The Trouble With Wilber

[David M]

Hi DMB

As Sneddon explains for those who jump to invalid conclusions:

"This is not the kind of god to whom religious worship is typically 
addressed. Moreover, Whitehead's later atheistic (in a narrow sense) 
position is evident in Lucien Price's book, The Dialogues of Alfred North 
Whitehead:

God is in the world, or nowhere, creating continually in us and around us. 
This creative principle is everywhere, in animate and so-called inanimate 
matter, in the ether, water, earth, human hearts. But this creation is a 
continuing process, and 'the process is itself the actuality', since no 
sooner do you arrive than you start on a fresh journey. In so far as man 
partakes of this creative process does he partake of the divine nature of 
God, and that participation is his immortality, reducing the question of 
whether his individuality survives death to the estate of an irrelevancy. 
His true destiny as co-creator in the universe is his dignity and his 
grandeur. (Price, 297)

Whitehead's 'god' is not a personal entity but a principle in the universe."

Regards

David M



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Trouble With Wilber


> dmb said to David M:
> And I'd seriously like to know what you mean by "the sphere of the
> possible". Where did you get this notion?
>
> David M replied:
> The 'sphere of the possible' is my preferred way to refer to the reality 
> of
> the possibilities that any
> situation makes available. This is what DQ is I'd suggest. The best
> philosophical use of this concept to help explain reality-experience is in
> Whitehead...
>
> David M quoted from the Sneddon paper:
> "Whitehead calls these possibilities 'eternal objects'. ...these eternal
> objects reside, available for creativity, in what Whitehead names the
> 'primordial nature of god'."
>
> dmb says:
> Oh, I see. You've been talking some kind of Platonic theism. No wonder I
> smelled bullshit. Seriously. This is unsupportable, unknowable, ridiculous
> stuff. Don't you think? Eternal objects that reside in the bossom of god?
> Puh leeez.
>
> But thanks for making it clear. I really do appreciate that.
>
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