[MD] The Trouble With Wilber

[david buchanan]

Krimel said:
>No, I am saying that to the extent that there is a problem you have done
>nothing to define or clarify it. The "problem" in fact seems to exist, to
>paraphrase James ever so slightly, as "floating in the vast cloud of
>experiences that are wholly subjective, that are non-substitutional, that
>find not even an eventual ending for themselves in the perceptual world --
>they're mere day-dreams and joys and sufferings and wishes of the your 
>mind.
>These exist _with_ one another, indeed, and with the objective nuclei, but
>out of them it is probable that to all eternity no interrelated system of
>any kind will ever be made."

dmb says:
You can't be serious. You've read Pirsig's attacks on scientific materialism 
and you've seen Wilber's complaints about flatland so I'm guessing you have 
your tongue firmly in your cheek. I can see how a person might not 
understand the problem or agree that there is a problem. But if you think 
I'm making this up then you're about half as smart as I thought you were.

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