[MD] The Trouble With Wilber

[Krimel]

> [Krimel] 
> So you are saying you did understand the question? 
> But let's review: depth has nothing to do with emotion.
> It has nothing to do with increased awareness. And it can only
> be measured by Zogby and Gallup
> polls of general knowledge.

[Platt]
Your review is false. I didn't limit measurement of depth to Zogby and
Gallup polls.  

[Krimel]
Ok look I am begging you here what are we to measure and how. That study is
the only thing you have suggested.

[Platt]
I thought you were against "causes," relying instead on "probabilities."

[Krimel]
That is correct and what I have said is the "cause" is an assessment of
probability. We say a relationship is causal when it is at near 100%
probability.

[Platt]
Sure. College enrollments are irrelevant to depth of consciousness. The drop
out rate has probably increased in a similar way.

[Krimel]
Then please tell me what is that's all I ask.