[MD] The Trouble With Wilber

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:

> 
>      [SA previously]
> > >      Platt, just wondering.  Since your into
> > > consciousness, does consciousness die when the
> > body dies?  Or, as Tibetan Buddhists believe,
> > consciousness lives on and goes through Bardo states
> even as the
> > > body dies, this consciousness returns in another
> > > totally different human being incarnate from this
> > > consciousness.  Or, as Christ is supposed to come
> > back incarnated from a previous historical person. 
> > Just wondering your opinion.
> 
>      [Platt] 
> > This I believe:
> > "On the death of any living creature the spirit
> > returns to the spiritual world, the body to the
> bodily world. In this,
> > however, only the body is subject to change. The
> spiritual world is 
> > one single spirit who stands like unto light behind
> the bodily world 
> > and who, when any single creature comes into being,
> shines through > it as through a window. According to
> the kind and size of window 
> > less or more light enters the world. The light,
> however, remains 
> > unchanged."  -- Azis Nasafi
> 
>      You see, when Krimel said he believes death and
> birth is uncertain, and you say death and birth are
> absolute, yet, when you say "...any living creature
> the spirit returns..." your saying birth and death is
> not absolute.  So, according to what you quote above,
> you believe the body absolutely dies and is born, but
> the spirit does NOT absolutely die and birth.  So,
> your not absolutely absolute about birth and death it
> would seem.

Every statement in the quote above about the body and the spirit are
absolutes. There is no hedging, no probabilities, no allowances for chance.

Have a nice evening.

Platt




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