[MD] The Trouble With Wilber
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Mon Jun 18 16:43:09 PDT 2007
Quoting Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>:
> [Platt]
> Typical. You don't like what libertarians say. Call them deceptive "nuts."
>
> [Arlo]
> I am fond of much Libertarian philosophy. "Ain't Nobodys Business If
> You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in a Free Society" is a
> favorite book of mine. Just because I find your incessant use of
> deceptive and distortive talk-show rhetoric deplorable hardly means I
> find nothing of value in larger philosophical camps. I think Limbaugh
> is about as vile as they come, but I have many close friends who are
> "conservatives". Life ain't the "all or nothing" you make it out to be.
Typical. Talk-show rhetoric is deceptive and distortive, and Limbaugh is
vile.
> [Arlo had said]
> The whole "bash the Academy" crowd, which pretty much defines
> right-wing politics, uses the same rhetoric generation in and
> generation out. They labeled Pirsig a "radical professor" fifty years
> ago, and still use that tired phrase with each new round of nonsense.
>
> [Platt]
> Typical. You don't like what capitalists say. Call it "nonsense."
>
> [Arlo]
> It was "capitalists" who branded Pirsig a "radical professor"? At any
> rate, yes, the perennial nonsense that brands "radical professors" I
> do find, as Pirsig did, "just right-wing politics".
Typical. What capitalists say is "nonsense." (Talk about "all or nothing.")
> [Arlo had said]
> "Dumbing down our schools" is just another old, worn-out cliche, and
> every time you hear it you are justified to roll your eyes and tread
> with caution. More often than not, it is used to masquerade attacks
> against non-white, non-European cultural information. Its the damned
> liberals and foreigners who are ruining the country, destroying the
> schools, blah blah blah.
>
> [Platt]
> Typical. You don't like what conservatives say. Call them "racists."
>
> [Arlo]
> Hey, you make your fear-bed, you lie in it. Give me some examples of
> "dumbing down" that aren't "catering to liberals" or "catering to
> foreigners". And heaven forbid someone speaks another language!
I gave examples of dumbing down in previous posts that don't cater to
anybody -- just the facts.
> "... there will be unintended consequences [of the Immigration Bill]
> all over the place. The new census report says America's now
> one-third minority. And in four states -- California, New Mexico,
> Texas, and Hawaii -- whites are the minority." (Bill O'Reilly)
>
> Whites as the minority?!?! Oh my god! Run for the hills! We are doomed!
Which is good reason why you should study the Western canon.
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