[MD] the MOQ and its environment

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:

>      [Platt]
> > One understands Quality as experience prior to
> > intellectualizing.  
> 
> 
>      Do you ever try to understand where somebody else
> is coming from or do you have to be right?  Do you
> know that static patterns are quality, too?  Do you
> know static patterns are called static quality?  I
> already know that dq is prior to intellectualizing. 
> Do you know that intellectualizing is static
> quality<----(see that word)?  Do you have a point in
> keep saying that experience is prior to
> intellectualizing?  You can experience, you can
> intellectualize, it's all quality.  This is what I
> meant by if you want to just experience go for it, but
> you'll never stop intellectualizing.  It is
> impossible.

Whatever you say. I always felt meditating, playing the piano and 
contemplating the beauty of the heavens stopped intellectualizing. But,
I could be wrong.

     [Platt]   
> > OK by me. You were the one that defined rock as dq.
> 
>      Do you understand that dq is nothing.  How does
> nothing give definition to something?  Do you ever try
> to think about what somebody else is saying or do you
> just think about yourself and want to be right and
> argue out your point?

Whatever you say. I always felt dq was something that created the 
world. But, I could be wrong.

>      [SA previously]
> > >      Let go of your ego, and let the tree be brown
> > > without YOU having to make yourself believe you
> > have to make that assertion.    
> 
>      [Platt] 
> > My ego isn't involved. It was you who asserted "A
> > tree is brown." But since you brought it up, my tree
> happens to be
> > greenish-yellow.
> 
>      Again.  Do you ever read what somebody is trying
> to say and empty your mind to new ideas or
> perceptions?  Or do just want to try to prove some
> kind of point.  How is a brown tree depending on what
> I think about it?  The tree is brown.  Why do I have
> to have anything to do with it?  See, just like in the
> Global Warming thread you are pulling a Micah.  The
> world is all in your head.  The world must be what you
> say the world is.  I don't get this kind of thinking. 
> Are you just going to say "whatever" like last time,
> or are you going to try to understand what I'm  trying
> to say.  I'm done with this discussion with you since
> you've already decide on things and filled your mind
> and your not very open to trying to understand what
> I'm saying.  Your seem to be in a Platt's right and SA
> is wrong 'stance'.  I'm just trying to share with you
> a perspective I have.  See you have this ego.  Even
> above you say "MY tree happens to be greenish-yellow."
>  YOUR tree... you OWN a tree.  Trees can be YOURS. 
> What an ego!  Next YOU'LL be saying to me is YOU know
> everything about Lila, and can have here, keep her,
> and make her yours.  GEEESSSSS!  Like you always like
> to ask, "How do you choose who's right or wrong?"  My
> goodness...

Whatever . . . no point in responding to someone who is 
"done with this discussion" and who thinks distinguishing
between the tree you see and the one I see is about my ego. 


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