[MD] Quantum computing

pholden at davtv.com pholden at davtv.com
Fri Mar 2 13:31:12 PST 2007


Quoting Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>:

> [Platt]
> Now the MOQ level has arrived and people can think about intellect as 
> a static value pure and simple, thus bypassing paradox, recursions, 
> strange loops and infinite regress
> 
> [Arlo]
> I'm sorry, Platt, gonna have to disagree with you on this. The only 
> way to "bypass" strange loops is to avoid "intellection" altogether. 
> The "out" in the MOQ is the pre-intellectual, "mystical" inclusion 
> brought in via Buddhism (for example). One simply can't "think about 
> thinking", even using MOQ-terminology, and avoid paradox, recursion and loops.

Yes, you're right. I agree. Was what I meant to convey.

> What the MOQ does is make evident the "event horizon" surrounding 
> Quality. When Pirsig says "all this is just an analogy", he includes 
> within it the MOQ itself. Sure, the MOQ gives us a better way to 
> intellectually carve-up our experiences, and does not divide us from 
> the world as does SOM, but as an intellectual system, as a 
> metaphysics, its descriptions can contain experience without paradox. 
> Indeed, the key difference is that while SOM is blind to this, and 
> actively seeks an intellectual "literal truth", the MOQ embraces it, 
> and says that that core experience can only be seen through analogy, 
> metaphor, art, can only be glimpsed pre-intellectually.

Agree. Thanks.

Platt



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