[MD] Quantum computing
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Fri Mar 2 13:31:12 PST 2007
Quoting Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>:
> [Platt]
> Now the MOQ level has arrived and people can think about intellect as
> a static value pure and simple, thus bypassing paradox, recursions,
> strange loops and infinite regress
>
> [Arlo]
> I'm sorry, Platt, gonna have to disagree with you on this. The only
> way to "bypass" strange loops is to avoid "intellection" altogether.
> The "out" in the MOQ is the pre-intellectual, "mystical" inclusion
> brought in via Buddhism (for example). One simply can't "think about
> thinking", even using MOQ-terminology, and avoid paradox, recursion and loops.
Yes, you're right. I agree. Was what I meant to convey.
> What the MOQ does is make evident the "event horizon" surrounding
> Quality. When Pirsig says "all this is just an analogy", he includes
> within it the MOQ itself. Sure, the MOQ gives us a better way to
> intellectually carve-up our experiences, and does not divide us from
> the world as does SOM, but as an intellectual system, as a
> metaphysics, its descriptions can contain experience without paradox.
> Indeed, the key difference is that while SOM is blind to this, and
> actively seeks an intellectual "literal truth", the MOQ embraces it,
> and says that that core experience can only be seen through analogy,
> metaphor, art, can only be glimpsed pre-intellectually.
Agree. Thanks.
Platt
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