[MD] dualism redux (to Ron)

[MarshaV]

Jos,

Value as 'the good, the bad & the ugly' has been a topic rolling 
around in my mind for a long time.  I've tried to start up the 
subject a number of times, but no takers.  Maybe I'm the only one who 
wants some investigation and clarification.

Regardless, I interrupted you. This was not a subject of this 
thread.  I apologize.

Marsha

At 09:49 AM 3/3/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha, Case
>
>Ah yes, appologies for jumping in without reading the earlier parts 
>of the thread.
>
>I would see "bad" as a very restricted categorical adjective applied 
>to complete absence of good, but as an entity it seems completely 
>incompatible with the structure of the MOQ.
>
>If one is using "good" in its absolute sense to refer to DQ, then 
>"no good" doesn't just mean bad it means non existent. Worse than 
>that it means, not the thing that is already "not other" before 
>existence/non exixtence gets defined. But our groundstuff encompases 
>everything so that just isn't allowed.
>
>Ham - can I ask your opinion here
>
>I'd like to establish how a hypothetical "absolute bad" might realte 
>to essentialism (I know the question doesn't fit properly).
>
>What is "absence of essence"?
>
>Jos
>
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > It was very exciting when Case stated "bad is also a noun".  That's
> > what I was trying to imply in the above statement.
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org
> > [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of MarshaV
> > Sent: 03 March 2007 14:15
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Subject: Re: [MD] dualism redux (to Ron)
> >
> >
> > At 09:03 AM 3/3/2007, Jos wrote:
> >
> > >Hmm..
> > >Not that close, "betterness" implies direction, as would "worseness"
> > >both being descriptions of realtive positions. "Goodness" in MOQ is
> > >an unreferenced absolute.
> > >
> > >Is there an opposite of good other than absence of good?
 > At 05:50 PM 3/2/2007, you wrote:
 >
 > > > How close is "betterness" to "goodness"?
 >
 > How close is "betterness" to "badness"?
 >
 > In both cases, it is probably better to know than to not know.
 >
 > ???
 >
 > Marsha
 >
 >