[MD] Oneness, Dualism & Intellect

[MarshaV]

Arlo,

Haha haha  haha   Quality is the less confusing word.

Marsha

At 12:05 PM 3/9/2007, Arlo wrote:
>[Marsha]
>The "betterness" term makes me uncomfortable. It remind me of the  water
>analogy, "if everything is water, and there is nothing that is not water, then
>there is no meaning to water, for there is no way of distinguishing a duality
>or difference between water and nonwater."  So if everything is evaluated as
>"betterness", what does it mean...  Am I picking nits?
>
>[Arlo]
>I don't think so. I think we just have differing subtle nuances to how we use
>these words. No harm in that. As I said, to me "Quality" and "betterness" are
>fairly exchangeable terms. When that amoeba moves away from the acid, I think
>saying "the amoeba moves because of Quality" and "the amoeba moves because
>where it is moving is better than where it was" are synonymous. But I
>appreciate that you don't use the words this way.
>
>[Marsah]
>Quality is the less confusing word.  It can be high quality or low 
>quality.  Can
>you imagine low "betterness"?
>
>[Arlo]
>"Low Quality" is (for me) another way of saying "worse". A low quality
>environment is one that is "worse" than a high quality environment. 
>Another way
>of describing the amoeba situation is to say, "the amoeba was worse-off in
>point A than in point B". But this "better" and "worse", for the amoeba, is
>determined from its vantage on the biological level. For a 
>scientist, it may be
>"better" to force the amoeba into the acid (not sure why, but...). To use
>Pirsig's virus/patient analogy, the virus is simply following what 
>it perceives
>as "better", even though this conflicts with the patient's understanding of
>"better". From the patient's point of view, the presence of the 
>virus creates a
>low quality, or "worse", environment than otherwise. But from the virus' point
>of view, the host-body provides a high quality, or "better", environment than
>otherwise.
>
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