[MD] FW: Quantum weirdness

[Case]

Fernando, x,

"You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave."
- The Eagles

"If California slides into the ocean
Like the mystics and statistic say it will
I predict this hotel will be standing
Until I've paid my bill."
- Warren Zevon

"I just flipped off President George
I'm going to Dizzkneeland."
- Dada

"People just love to play with words,"
- Men at Work

Relevant?
Probably not.
Call me old school.

Case

-----Original Message-----
From: moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org
[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Ron Kulp
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:29 AM
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] FW: Quantum weirdness

Fernando,
And As Slayer would say "before you see the light, you must die"
..Take that in a Slipknot context,meaning "you can't see California without
Marlon Brando's eye's".
-x

-----Original Message-----
From: moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org
[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Fernando Farah
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:35 AM
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] FW: Quantum weirdness

Yin and yang, I see it.  Is the world a perfect sphere?  No, by any sorts.
Are Mr. Pirsig´s ideas perfect by any sorts?  No, by any means...  Sad.
¨Sad but true¨, as Metallica says.  So, life is a role playing game where,
not the ¨Masks of God¨ would appear, but the Masks of Men.  I am sorry.  I
have done unforgiveable mistakes recently and I feel disappointed with
myself.  And that´s not a Mask.  T
 
Does the Oneness behind the masks played on this Universe leads us to
goodness - in an evolution sense?  To a higher sense of being and reality -
maybe like the tantra sex makes appology of?  Anyway, life is life
 
Will the future lead us to ¨What do you want from me?  Should I sing until I
can´t sing anymore?"  Is that the plan for evolved creatures.  Are they
condemned to live in caves and in sorrow because that´s our nature?  Is that
our nature?  
 
Best,
Fernando.



> From: Case at iSpots.com> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 
> 2007 08:51:14 -0400> Subject: Re: [MD] FW: Quantum weirdness> > [Ham]> 
> My understanding of symmetry, as related to evolution, is that state 
> at> which all of the force and energy in the universe is dissipated or 
> spent,> and what remains of universal matter is at rest. This state is 
> referred to> as entropy and, according to the laws of thermodynamics, 
> it is the final> state toward which the universe is inexorably moving. 
> For anything to> happen once entropy is reached, a new source of 
> energy> is required. Yet, you are suggesting that symmetry sparked the 
> Big Bang,> that a balanced energy system gave rise to an asymmetrical 
> universe whose> energy forces were then unbalanced. How can that be?> 
> > [Case]> As far as I know symmetry has little or nothing to do with 
> entropy. What I> was referring to is that physicists have shown that 
> the forces of nature are> equivalent at higher energies. The 
> electrical force combines with the> magnetic force and they both 
> combine with the weak force and eventually with> the strong force. 
> They have thus far been unable to show how this can> include gravity. 
> I was suggesting that at the big bang all of the matter in> our 
> universe was compressed into a single massive point. This is a state 
> of> perfect order. If the matter collapses to a small enough point 
> then quantum> effects are suspected to be involved. As a result if 
> there was a quantum> fluctuation of some sort, for example the energy 
> and gravity became high> enough to make gravity combine with the other 
> forces, then imagine the> explosion.> > As far as I am concern this is 
> the Absolute Source and it is long gone. What> is left is 
> condensation.> > I will leave to Ron to address you other concerns.> > 
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