[MD] experience

[Kevin Perez]

Hello Arlo.
 
> [Kevin]
> What I saw in those eight definitions was language that spoke to human
> experience.  I saw nothing that would lead a person to understand that
> experience was anything other than personal.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Which would make you a subjectivist. If Quality does not exist prior to
> bio-social patterns, we are back to SOM. A subject "experiences" a value-less
> world. Because you can't have value without experience. And if we hold that
> there are inorganic patterns of value, then there must be inorganic value
> experience.
 
Thanks Arlo.  This explains it.
 
When I was younger and full of piss and vinegar – I was incorrigible – I would
dream of flying and fighting crime, like Superman.  I'm sure this was partly the
result of my mother's encouraging words, "you can do anything you set your mind
to do."  Of course she was right to lift me up this way.  But what she didn't know
and what I would learn the hard way is that lifting oneself up by one's boot straps
is no way to realize the best in life.
 
I've come to realize that the best things in life have absolutely nothing to do with
any rational understanding of how things work or which philosophy, religion or
beliefs a person chooses to affirm or deny.  The best things in life are our
relationships with one another, nature and the things that encourage and make
these relationships possible.
 
Arguments about whether this or that perspective on the MOQ is the right one and
whether this or that approach leads back to SOM is a waste of time, imo.  From
the outside they have the same apperance as those religious arguments that
attempt to prove which side god is on or that attempt to define morality in terms of
actions and objective behavior rather than desire and intent.  From the inside their
only affect is to leave a person feeling empty and cold.  ARRRGGGHHH!!!
 
Pirsig said, "man is the measure of all things."  I say, small children, mentally
retarded people, crones, curmudgeons, the poor and the destitute are the best
measure of the best things.
 

Kevin
 
PS: Arguments about whether this or that perspective on the MOQ is the right one
and whether this or that approach leads back to SOM are not about Quality.  They
are about SOM, imo.

 
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