[MD] experience

[Kevin Perez]

Hello Arlo.
 
> So in other words, in a discussion forum about the Pirsig's Quality, it is "SOM"
> to talk about that which follows this path and that which does not?
 
Yes.  Dualistic thinking, subject/object metaphysics, false-self behavior, call it what
you will, this stuff plays out whenever there's an agenda being advanced or an
argument being made.  Leave Quality, the awareness of the present moment and
your connections with it and you descend into SOM.  There's no way to avoid it.
As much as I like to think that the content of my posts comes from my true self
I know that my dualistic, calculating mind, false self composed every one of them.
 
> You're wrong, though. This conversation was particularly about Quality. It's
> about whether or not Quality is the "source of all things", or only comes into
> play when "man" enters the picture.
 
Thoughts and feelings about an experience are not the experience.  SOM wants to
say what a particular experience was or was not.  Quallity says what the
experience is.  
 
> If "man is the measure of all things" was
> said in the purest way of idealism, then nothing existed until "man" stepped
> onto the scene, maybe as recently as 56,000 years ago if we discount "early
> man".
 
"man is the measure of all things" is another way of saying that all measurements
and valuations are SOM.  The thing that is named is not the thing.
 

Kevin
 

 	 
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