[MD] the power of concepts

[Kevin Perez]

Hello Platt.
 
> > Let's do both.
> >  
> > Let's begin with a shared understanding of our disagreement.  I propose the
> > statement, "concepts have power to affect change in people."  Do we agree
> > that you take this to be a true statement and I take it to be a false statement?
> 
> Agree
> 
> >  And can we agree that the statement is itself a concept?
> 
> Agree
> 
> > If you are right then the statement "concepts have power to affect change in
> > people" could, by itself, affect a change in me such that I would change my
> > mind about it.
> 
> Don't know what you mean "by itself." A series of concepts such as presented
> in an argument might well change your mind. Agree?
 
Disagree.
 
An argument might just go in one ear and out the other.  But I see what you
mean.  Arguments are used all the time to affect changes in people's opinions of
things, e.g., court room arguments and jurors, election-year debates and voters,
moq.org and MOQers etc.
 
What I mean by "affect change in people" is something deeper than that.  I'm
talking about change at the level of transformation.  How does a person's
awareness of reality change from a dualistic and fragmented interplay of discrete
subjects and discrete objects to Quality?  Taking Quality to be the source of
everything, I take it that at some level Quality has a direct affect on people, and
not Quality mediated through language or ideas or concepts.
 
I think any exploration of what is meant by the "power to affect change in people,"
to be useful, must look at the person; the person as individual, the person as
family member, the person a responsible citizen, the person as mystic, the
person as life and the person as incarnate Quality.
 
I'd like to explore these things.  I don't think the Metaphysics of Quality comes
close to doing this.
 

Kevin

 
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