[MD] What "moral revolution" is called for by the MOQ?

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu>:

> Now it gets sticky. If it is true, what you and Bo argue, that intellect _is_
> SOM, then how can intellect EVER morally dominate society? And, if it can't,
> why put it above society in the moral hierarchy?
> 
> In other words, it is not just modern intellect that is SOM, but ALL intellect
> by definition. Why would we have a moral hierarchy where biology should
> dominate inorganic, society should dominate biology, but intellect can be
> dismissed? Can you envision an intellectual level that is NOT SOM? 

Yes, an intellect that accepts the MOQ -- that the world is a world of values. 

> [Platt]
> Sorry, I don't follow you. You seem to think intellect is necessary for
> responses to DQ? Is that what you're saying?
> 
> [Arlo]
> No. What I am trying to ask is, if you argue AGAINST intellectually dominated
> society for the reason that it "shuts to door to DQ", then why not make the
> same argument against socially dominated biology? Why is "leaving the door open
> to DQ" so important on the social level but unimportant (and moreso, actively
> "bad") on the biological level?

Did I say an intellectually dominated society "shuts the door to DQ?" I don't
remember. In fact, I don't think DQ has much if any influence any more at 
the biological or social levels.  

> [Platt]
> Because, to repeat, modern intellect has no place for morals.
> 
> [Arlo]
> So you disagree with Bo that intellect is ipso facto S/O?

No, I agree with Bo. Modern intellect is S/O intellect.

> [Arlo]
> See, we are not so unalike. :-) ... keeping in mind it probably a fool's quest
> to think we can predict where a Dynamic Revolution will lead us, and DMB valid
> finger-wagging at my too closely associating "art" with "DQ", of course. 

I too associate art with DQ. And so does Pirsig. "But the Metaphysics of Quality
also says that Dynamic Quality—the value-force that chooses an elegant mathematical
solution to a laborious one, or a brilliant experiment over a confusing,
inconclusive one—is another matter altogether." (Lila, 29) 




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