[MD] What "moral revolution" is called for by the MOQ?

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Ron Kulp <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>:

>  [Platt]
> Due to disastrous public education. I like your qualification,
> "anymore."
> Back in the days of spare the rod, spoil the child, education was higher
> quality.
> 
> [ron]
> Also keep in mind that social blind obedience seemed to be an
> unfortunate side effect

Yes. But with school choice, there would be less "blindness." 

> Of that method. Question is, how do you endorse the free intellect
> mentality when the 
> Method used is oppressive and draconian in a force fed manner. Your
> modeling your students
> For an institutional life, taken care of with no real need to think
> independantly.

Discipline in reading, writing and arithmetic never stopped anyone from
thinking independently. 

> When people do
> And become distressed they are encouraged to take anti-depressants and
> seek consol.
> If you encourge individuality then it is pushed to its limit and nothing
> is learned
> You have a society of "victims" with no knowledge or discipline just an
> enhanced
> Subjective view.

You need a mix of discipline and freedom. 

> Question is how do you inspire the "want" the "discipline to learn"? How
> do you first
> Teach self discipline and then the thirst for knowledge As a standard?

First you remove the crutches for those who don't want to learn. Then you
get teachers who inspire students to become all they can be.

> When the question was asked who should be paid the highest in society,
> I say the teachers. That position must be valued by a society or the
> society 

Teachers should be paid like anyone else, for their ability to do the job they
are paid to do in a competitive market.

> Degrades. High Art means little to a vandal. I feel academia is
> reversed, with most 
> of the prestige going to Secondary learning. The battle is at the
> primary levels, 
> kindergarten , 1st, 2nd When learning traits are developed.

Right on.

> Knowledge
> is'nt 
> obtained by a whack o'the head-
> Or I'd be frigg'n Einstein by now. But it has made me wiser about
> answering
> With what is expected from me and not with my individual opinion.
> It has taught me "the nail that sticks up, gets hammerd down".
> That's why I feel Pirsigs 1962 paper on teaching method is so 
> Poiant.

Pirsig was an creative, inspiring teacher. We need more like him. 


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