[MD] Quality computing

[ian glendinning]

Hi DMB,

You said
Okay, "boot" is a pretty good example. Since I live in this world too, I
realized that it was probably a reference to hearty footwear and/or the act
of putting them on and that this implies that it might be something we must
do before we start working.

Actually that is not the sense it is meant metaphorically - in fact it
is closer to your gravity-defying suggestion later ...

"Pulling oneself up by the bootstraps."
(Rather than pulling the boots on.)

Lifting yourself off the ground, by yourself - seemingly impossible ...

A program you need before you can run any (other) programs.

Ian


On 3/21/07, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Case said tp Platt:
> Boot comes from boot strap as when the computer starts it is lifting itself
> up by its boot straps. A good conservative like yourself should love than
> one.
>
> dmb says:
> Okay, "boot" is a pretty good example. Since I live in this world too, I
> realized that it was probably a reference to hearty footwear and/or the act
> of putting them on and that this implies that it might be something we must
> do before we start working. But what's wrong with the word "start"? What's
> the point of obscuring a concept as simple as "on"? That's what I don't get.
> Why do we need a word like "download" if all it means is "get"? Load makes
> sense all by itself. In what sense is there a downward direction involved.
> Are these files coming down off a satellite? Or is this a reference to my
> status on the foodchain?
>
> Am I saying I could do better? That I could imagine better terms to use?
> Hell yes. But that's no big claim because this is such awful, awful stuff.
> Sure, once in a while there is some cleverness but mostly the lingo only
> misleads and confuses in a million tiny ways. But hey, this whole thing is
> just a baby. These things will get worked out in time, I suppose.
>
> And if, as you say, "booting" refers to the conservative's commandment to
> the poor, that they learn to defy gravity, then it refers to intentions and
> willfullness. I don't see how that can be applied to computers even if we
> don't mind the anthropomorphization of such an analogy.
>
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