[MD] What "moral revolution" is called for by the MOQ?

[Ron Kulp]

 [Platt]
Liberal Kennedy got us into Vietnam, liberal Johnson expanded the war
and authorized use of Agent Orange, continued by liberal Nixon.

[Ron]
I believe what got us into vietnam and Korea was Eisenhowers anti
communism expansion agenda
Some sort of policy was introduced by him to fight communism globally.
These were cold war
Years remember.
Agent Orange was used to kill foliage eliminating places for combatants
to hide, unfortunately
It was dropped on troops in the field.  DDT was banned
Because the toxin did not dilute, if you ate fish that ate DDT carring
insects you ingested DDT
In small doses this is fine but don't eat lots of fish or birds or
anything else that consumes DDT exposed
Insects it accumulates in your body until toxic levels are reached then
your screwed. Sort of
Like mercury.
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Quoting Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>:

> [Platt]
> Don't know about auto accidents but deaths from malaria due to banning

> of DTD in undeveloped countries can be laid right at the feel of 
> environmental "liberalism."
> 
> [Arlo]
> According to Wikipedia, "As of 2006, DDT continues to be used in other

> (primarily tropical) countries where mosquito-borne malaria and typhus

> are serious health problems. Use of DDT in public health to control 
> mosquitoes is primarily done inside buildings and through inclusion in

> household products and selective spraying; this greatly reduces 
> environmental damage compared to the earlier widespread use of DDT in 
> agriculture." Seems to me a good compromise.

After millions died. 

> Also from Wikipedia, "In the summer of 1972, Ruckelshaus announced a 
> ban on virtually all uses of DDT in the U.S., where it was classified 
> as an EPA Toxicity Class II substance." Wasn't Richard Nixon the 
> president in 1972? Doesn't the President appoint the head of the EPA?
> Weren't the Republicans in power until 1977?

Nixon, Rockefeller and the like were liberals in disguise. One must
distinguish between conservatives (the less government, the better) and
the Republican Party. 

> For a more historically balanced account of why and how DDT came to be

> banned in the US (part of which had to do with a country still 
> gripping with the Republican authorizing of of Agent Orange use in 
> Vietnam... conservative-sponsored chemical warfare left a bad taste in

> many mouths (pun intended)), see the Wikipedia article.

Liberal Kennedy got us into Vietnam, liberal Johnson expanded the war
and authorized use of Agent Orange, continued by liberal Nixon. What
that has to do with DDT I haven't the faintest notion. A complete
reading of the Wikipedia article shows there is still debate among
scientists as to DDT effects on humans and the environment, much like
the current debate about global warming. 



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