[MD] Down the road of mediocrity

[Ron Kulp]

 > [Case]
> You can buy whatever you want but you have to pay cash for things 
> disallowed under the Food Stamp program. If you believe this is 
> happening locally I suggest you call the local food stamp office and 
> report the store where this happens for possible fraud.

> [Platt]
Fat chance I would get anywhere.

[Ron]
Platt,
I'm surprised you make such a comment, yet you still feel justified in
complaining about the situation.
It's hard to respect those who complain yet fail to get involved. I feel
It is every citizens responsibility 
To Uphold the law . Responsibility starts with you . Be a pain in the
ass, be a big pain in the ass.
If we all took a stand on this garbage and enough of us make a noise
things may change. "it is better to 
have tried and failed than to never have tried at all so that your place
shall never be with those cold
Timid souls who know niether victory nor defeat."


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Quoting Case <Case at iSpots.com>:

> [Platt]
> Social Security is not a welfare program because benefits are not 
> dependent on "need." Everyone who works must pay SS taxes. Everyone 
> who paid in can collect at retirement.
> 
> [Case]
> Social Security, AFDC, Food Stamps and other social service dollars 
> are lumped in the federal budget as entitlement programs.

Yeah, government propagandists hate the word "welfare." Reminds people
to much of freeloaders.
 
> [Platt]
> So guess what? Some get pregnant to collect. 
> 
> [Case]
> This is another Republican myth. I am not saying that it has never 
> happened but it is very rare and the idea that it has become a 
> cornerstone of public policy is an obscenity.

Not the cornerstone of public policy, but the cornerstone of welfare
cheats.

> [Platt]
> No requirement that there be a father in the house.
> 
> [Case]
> The funding is allocated to assist children regardless of family 
> living arrangements

A program designed for children often abused by adults.

> [Platt]
> >From what I've seen in market check out lines, you can buy a lot of 
> >things
> besides food with food stamps, like diapers.
> 
> [Case]
> You can buy whatever you want but you have to pay cash for things 
> disallowed under the Food Stamp program. If you believe this is 
> happening locally I suggest you call the local food stamp office and 
> report the store where this happens for possible fraud.

Fat chance I would get anywhere.
  
> [Platt]
> As if cheating doesn't occur. Yeah, right.
> 
> [Case]
> And a big part of the inefficient inherent in government programs is 
> the red tape involved it trying to minimize this. There is no system 
> anywhere in any sector public or private that is immune from cheating 
> and exploitation. This is not a specific indictment of social services
programs.

Cheating in the private sector is vigorously opposed. Cheating in the
government sector gets a wink and a nod. 

> [Platt]
> Some street people prefer living that way. When attempts are made to 
> give them shelter, they resist.
> 
> [Case]
> There are a variety of reasons for this including mental illness but 
> one you should consider is that they do not wish to have the 
> government take money out of their pockets to give to others and so 
> they do not participate in the system. I have advised you in the past 
> no one is required to pay taxes, only those who chose to participate 
> in the economy. Some people do make the choice not to participate.

So let them alone.

> [Platt]
> Right. Some go to emergency rooms just to have someone to talk to. 
> People should be required to have private health insurance, just like 
> they are required to have auto liability insurance.
> 
> [Case]
> Shoulda, woulda, coulda. It is a shame the world does not conform to 
> your expectations. Nevertheless it is not as though everyone obeys the

> law to purchase car insurance just because there is law. Plus I would 
> think having people force you to buy insurance of any kind at the 
> point of a gun would bother you.

Forcing you to be responsible is OK by me, like obeying traffic laws.

> Do you seriously believe that anyone anywhere thinks the ER is a cool 
> place to hang out for chit chat?

Ask those who run the place what it's like.

> [Platt]
> Before swallowing any so called facts from the government, everyone 
> should read "How to Lie with Statistics."
> 
> [Case]
> Where is Craig on this one? Just because some liars use statistics 
> does not mean that all statistics are lies.

True. But it's well to be suspicious, especially when the statistics are
compiled by a government bureaucrat interested in keeping and expanding
her job.




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