[MD] Down the road of mediocrity
Arlo Bensinger
ajb102 at psu.edu
Thu Mar 29 14:33:23 PDT 2007
[Platt]
So the manufacture, production and distribution of goods and services
can be done by retards...
[Arlo]
I'm sorry, where exactly in Pirsig does he say social activity is
basically the level of retardation? Commerce is a social activity,
calculus is an intellectual activity. You could say that football
requires "intellect" to play, but its still a social level activity.
Organized religion requires "intellect" to operate (write sermons,
organize events, collect tithes, play music on the organ...), but its
still a social level activity.
[Platt]
A soldier not only fights for his family's freedom but for his own. I
don't know where you get this "greater good" from.
[Arlo]
So you're saying soldier's only fight for their own freedom, that
they do not sacrifice for the greater good (freedom for everyone)?
But you still haven't answered the question. Is a soldier more moral
than a fireman? Is a soldier more moral than your local grocery
clerk? Is a grocery clerk more moral than a librarian? I really don't
see any rubric to your proposal that some people are more moral than
others. So far its only been:
Those who fight for intellectual freedom from social repression are
more moral than those who fight for threatening biological freedoms
from social repression.
Or to reword this....
Non-criminals are more moral than criminals.
Whatever, but what does this have to do with who does and does not
receive health care?
[Arlo]
if we let the economic market determine who does and who does not
receive medical care, then we are tying the value of human life to
that person's ability to generate wealth.
[Platt]
To a person's ability to pay for services rendered, yes. Without
wealth there would be no doctors, no medicines, no life saving equipment.
[Arlo]
And here is the new capistocracy. The life of the rich is more
valuable than the life of the poor. A human life is worth only what
wealth s/he generates. A sad state of affairs we have descended into.
[Platt]
Stale? Most people don't even realize that's the only thing that
gives government its power.
[Arlo]
No. What gives government its power is its people (in a democracy).
[Platt]
Insurance is a voluntary association of people for mutual protection.
[Arlo]
Which does not change the fact that _I_ subsidize _YOUR_ expenses
when your claims outweigh your contributions. I don't _want_ my
premiums to go up, but every time someone takes more out than they
put in, I get the bill. Once again, you're welcome.
[Platt]
There's nothing voluntary about paying taxes to support wasteful
government programs and fat bureaucrats.
[Arlo]
There's nothing voluntary about supporting our armed services either,
is there? But I gladly do it...
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