[MD] The MOQ and the sciences.
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Sat Mar 31 23:47:22 PDT 2007
Magnus and All.
On 29 Mar.you cried:
> No No No No No!! Static inorganic patterns have EVERYTHING to do
> with physics and cosmology! You're doing it again. You totally
> confuse "reality" with "pointing at reality".
The sciences are intellectual pattern - that much we agree on -
then then the world that the physicists examine must be treated
as if it was intellect's "matter" because there exists no "inorganic
value patterns" to science. Trying to impose a Q-physics is plain
impossible. I've read that it's possible to calculate a moon trip by
General Relativity - if you have a thousand years and a bank of
supercomputers at your disposal - but this job is infinitely easier
done with Newton's physics. However, inside black holes and at
speeds close to light GR must be applied. The MOQ is for the
extreme (final) questions. "Leave unto Intellect what Intellect's is
and unto the MOQ ...etc".
> I can of course observe the ball falling and then think about how
> fast the ball should fall etc. In this case, it's me thinking about
> physical models and how they stipulate how the ball should move, and
> those models are intellectual patterns. But intellectual patterns
> describe things and WHAT THOSE PATTERNS DESCRIBE ARE INORGANIC
> PATTERNS!
These are physical phenomena to physics, and I can't for the life
of me understand what speaking about value patterns - in this
setting - adds to our understanding of ball trajectories. BTW What
pattern is it that observes the inorganic patterns "valuing to fall"?
> But ok, as long as you keep these doubts for yourself, I'm ok with
> it. Just don't come interfere with us who want to use the MoQ for
> those purposes.
Doubts? Not at all, I see the MOQ opening up a new world,
devoid of SOM's paradoxes, but this it does only by the
intellect=S/O interpretation (both subject and object confined to
intellect) but the MD has become a competition of closing minds
to the obvious. However, I'm grateful for your effort to debunk it,
it's more honest than the ignoring tactics.
Bo
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