[MD] seeing beyond the mirror (was: Heads or tails?)

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Kevin Perez <kjp_on_moq at yahoo.com>:

> And so feelings are biological but thoughts are intellectual.  The intellectual
> level
> seems like a convenient way to elevate the individual above society.
>  
> Does the MoQ provide any guidance on how to distinguish ego from Quality?

"The MOQ, as I understand it, denies any existence of a “self” that is independent
of inorganic, biological, social or intellectual patterns. There is no “self” that
contains these patterns. These patterns contain the self. This denial agrees with
both religious mysticism and scientific knowledge. In Zen, there is referent to
“big self” and “small self.” Big self is Dynamic Quality." (Note 29, Lila's Child)

I guess Pirsig is agreeing with Dennett, Hofstadter and others that "self" is an
illusion although you will note above his reference to "I." If it is an
illusion it seems to be a useful one. From my perspective, "I" is what protects
the independence of the individual and the intellectual level from the forces
of "we." Also it is the "I" that responds to DQ.

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