[MD] Heads or tails?

[Ron Kulp]

[IG] Sorry again Ron, but I doubt it - "true / false logic on a firm
foundation of nothingness" ? Where's the drivel fairy when I need him ?

[Ron]
Let me un-drivel it, I'm stating that THAT is what essentialism
does..ex. Existence exists therefore
It's opposite must exist which is nothin-zip...(falsification) ,I think
this is where Ham and Wilbur go wrong
This is what I was trying to explain. 

>  I think this is where Krimmel battles.
> Pirsigs take on "betterness" seems to be an extension of the theory Of

> "molecular self assembley", rather than a means to an end or an "omega

> point".

[IG] Not sure about the Wilbur take, but to me the omega point is the
last sip of brandy after a last supper in the restaurant at the end of
the universe - the very end - hopefully before the waiter arrives with
the check. To me "ends" are pragmatic things achieved. The Pirsig view
- evolution - reality as self-organising complex systems - is so much
more here and now - real.

[Ron} 
I agree. And that is what I'm I'm saying, I feel that beginning, ends,
ultimate destinations, 
omega points, ect. Ect.
Are generalized simplifications.