[MD] Collective intelligence

[Horse]

Hi Akshay

Good to hear from you and a belated welcome to the list.

I think that the problem here is that you are confusing intellectual 
knowledge with other forms of knowledge which, from a SOM point of view 
causes problems.
In the MoQ, knowledge, like all else, is the formation of stable 
patterns of value that persist through time. It has both a static and 
dynamic element. Knowledge is created by the reception of information 
and interaction with that information. It can then be passed along, 
again as new information. There is a static/dynamic relationship between 
information and knowledge.
There is also no reason to suppose that this is limited to humans. At 
both the biological and social levels (and, I'm rapidly coming around to 
including the inorganic level as well) information is transmitted, 
received, acted upon, ordered, transformed and retransmitted. If you 
think of this process in terms of patterns of value rather than subjects 
and objects then it becomes a lot clearer. Patterns of value are neither 
subjects nor objects, they are the creators of subjects and objects.

An electric shock starts out as inorganic patterns of value (inorganic 
information or electron flow), and is received by biological patterns of 
value but at an inorganic level. The transformation to biological 
information is perceived as pain. If this perception of pain is in a 
human, with the social knowledge of electricity, it is quickly 
intellectualized as an electric shock - or possibly as nothing cos you 
just dropped dead! If you could go back in time a couple of hundred 
years or so - before the concept of electricity and electric shocks, or 
to a culture with no knowledge of same then there would still be the 
experience of pain. This would be stored as biological knowledge and 
avoided in the future. Most animals 'know' to avoid pain but do not do 
it in an intellectual fashion in the way that you describe it.
As far as I can see, in MoQ terms, only intellectual knowledge has an 
intellectual tag.


Cheers


Horse


Akshay Peshwe wrote:
> *Knowledge - i.e. the formation and flow of information - can and is
> quite independent of what you are seeing as intelligence and
> self-awareness. Within the levels of the MoQ there are at least 3
> different forms of knowledge. There is biological knowledge, social
> knowledge and intellectual knowledge. For the moment inorganic knowledge is
> irrelevant.
> *
> I think what you mean by knowledge there is something close to "units of
> experience" and not know-ledge per se. Knowledge is something you know,
> therefore it carries an intellectual tag. Feelings can be said to be
> experiences on the planes of biological and social static patterns of value.
> One has to be careful about classifying inorganic static patterns. An
> electric shock can be said to be an inorganic static pattern, however, it is
> not experienced per se, but by office of biology; but biology we experience
> purely.
> 
> -- Akshay