[MD] Animals and Dynamic Quality

[Platt Holden]

> [Arlo asked]
> 1. Could animals ever respond to DQ? 
> 
> [Platt]
> No. 
> 
> [Arlo]
> Also, see below where you suggest otherwise. But I'll take this answer as
> what are you saying for now.

You said "animals." Below I said "a single animal."  My answer stands now
and below. 
 
> Okay, before humans, what did respond to DQ? If that thing no longer
> responds to DQ, give me an example of what it did "before" (when it did
> respond to DQ) that it can no longer do.

An animal here and there responded. Maybe you can pinpoint when 
the animal that immediately preceded the cat responded to DQ. I can't. 
Neither can Darwinists.  The skeleton record fails to show all the little 
intermediate steps that eventually became a cat. The theory suffers
on account of the missing evidence that ought to be there.    

> [Arlo had asked]
> 6. Before man (and these levels) how did things respond to DQ?
> 
> [Platt]
> Luck
> 
> [Arlo]
> I don't understand. Was there some feature of the thing that enabled it to
> respond to DQ? 

Perhaps. We'll never know. Or it could have been just dumb luck, like the
experiments Pirsig talked about that resulted in an accidental discovery..

> [Platt]
> Apparently you believe that everything responds to DQ every moment of every
> day ad infinitum.
> 
> [Arlo]
> I believe that Pirsig was correct in saying that "it's better here" is a
> response to DQ. 

Unresponsive reply. Nor have you answered my question whether you believe 
movements and unpredictable changes are always the result of DQ.  

> [Platt]
> I believe based on Pirsig's explanation of evolution in Chapter 11 that I
> asked you to read that a single atom or animal at one time responded to the
> moral force of DQ to advance evolution. 
> 
> [Arlo]
> You just said above animals could never respond to DQ. Are you now saying
> that at one time they did?
 
Not "they" -- single individuals. I kept repeating but you don't get it: 
"A tribe can change its values only person by person and someone has to be 
first." (Lila, 9)  Some ONE. That's MOQ evolution in a nutshell.