[MD] Animals and Dynamic Quality

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>:

> DQ has no pattern I agree, but sq are static patterns IN DQ, left behind they may
> be but they still have to be a pattern in something.
> A helpful metaphor:
> A wave is a static pattern in a dynamic medium, it is a wave (Static) but still
> made of water (dynamic (though not in the MOQ sense))

I'm speaking solely of Dynamic in the MOQ sense. Water in that sense is not Dynamic.

> > The "motive" of evolution according to Pirsig is to increase 
> > versatility and
> > freedom. We see this throughout evolutionary history as 
> > consciousness expanded. 
> 
> I was very specific in how the word is being used, and this doesn't address the
> point of the sentence.
> By saying "the motive is versatility and freedom" you attempt to define DQ - slap
> on the wrist Platt. 

Then slap Pirsig on the wrist, too. 



> > Sorry, don't understand. Humans consist of all four levels 
> > plus ability to 
> > respond to DQ. Cats consist of two levels - inorganic and 
> > biological. You 
> > seem to be saying cats can also be intellectuals. But, I'm 
> > sure that can't be
> > what you mean.  
> 
> Thank you for your doubt.
> Static patterns at all levels repond to DQ this is self evident. The cat is
> consicous (after a fashion) and its experience moment by moment is dynamic quality
> same as it is for you or I. 

Disagree.



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