[MD] Animals and Dynamic Quality

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu>:

> [Arlo previously]
> The question here is give me an example of something Animal X could do, as a
> result of being responsive to DQ, that UTOE (and other animals today) can no
> longer do.
> 
> [Platt]
> If you can specify the specific individual animal that moved evolution along
> you will be a hero among biologists and probably receive a Nobel prize. Maybe
> it was that half-bird, half-dinosaur that was found in a fossil. But I would
> look for its predecessor and the one before that and the one before that. 
> 
> [Arlo]
> This is not an answer to the question. Give me an example of something Animal X
> could do, as an animal that could respond to DQ, that no animal today can do.
> There is Animal X over by that tree... tell me what it could do that no animal
> today can do. 

Why don't you think it's not an answer?
 
> [Arlo previously]
> Let's go back to Time X. There is Animal X over by the tree. In this time,
> could all other single animals also respond to DQ? Was it only some of the
> single animals, while other single animals could not? Was it all other animals
> like Animal X (if Animal X was a sabretooth, does that mean all individual
> sabertoothes could respond to DQ)?
> 
> [Platt]
> My simple mind cannot follow your convolutions. 
> 
> [Arlo]
> You've said, there existed once a single animal that could respond to DQ. Could
> all single animals of the same species also respond to DQ? For example, let's
> say Animal X was a wolf. Could all wolves respond to DQ? Or could some but not
> others?

Why a wolf?

> [Platt]
> Let me pose a reframe (but please answer the original as well). Would you say
> that ALL humans can respond to DQ? So that even a human infant, left at birth
> on a deserted island and miraculously surviving into adulthood, would also
> respond to DQ? This would seem to make it a biological trait that enabled
> responsiveness ot DQ. If not, what would it be?
> 
> [Platt]
> Say what?
> 
> [Arlo]
> 1. Can all humans respond to DQ?

Define "all humans." Do you include those with Alzheimer's?

> 2. What commonality among humans makes humans capable of responding to DQ? Is
> it biological, for example our "brain structure"?

Don't know. What do you think it is?

> [Arlo previously]
> So there was an overlap when "man" existed, that both individual humans and
> individuals animals could respond to DQ?
> 
> [Platt]
> Please specify when man existed.
> 
> [Arlo]
> I know you're trying to play rheotical games, Platt, but try to answer this one
> without the schtick.

What schtick?. 

> 3. Was there ever a point in time when there simultaneously existed both (a) a
> human that could respond to DQ and (b) an animal that could respond to DQ?

What human or animal did you have in mind?
 
> [Arlo previously]
> To clarify, evolution has stopped regarding all things except "man"? 
> 
> [Platt] 
> All things? No. 
> 
> [Arlo]
> Give me an example of something that is still evolving that does not involve
> "man".

A parallel universe.

Why don't you take your Perry Mason tactics and ask Jos about his interpretation
of Dynamic value? 




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