[MD] Perception,evolution and the spirit

[Ron Kulp]

Hello,
Hope eveyone had an enjoyable and safe holiday. The threads I've read
through the weekend
have lead me to comment and query fundemental aspects of our
philosophies.


My thoughts:

Pirsigs value, Wilburs Holons, Topos (set) theory all share the same
concept and are described
simularly. That all reality is composed of interrelated forms of energy.
The perception of this concept manifests as subject object metaphysics.
The use of this concept is to form an accurate model in which to observe
and predict possibility and probability. To use this concept to further 
any other concept other than an accurate model for observation is to
follow perception
not increase accurate observation.

In my opinion to quarrel about god,essence,spirit, life force,quality,
or betterness,
to speculate that it is driven,pulled,evolves or drawn to a conclusion
or goal is using that model
to further a perception of a subject/object universe.

Subject/object perception can not be "dropped" like a unstylish hand
bag.
Anyone who thinks they do not percieve in terms of subjects and objects
is fooling themselves.

To increase the accuracy of observation is to increase the accuracy of
value
Perception.

Because we percieve in terms of subjects and objects, I speculate that 
definitive understanding of ultimate reality is unachieveable and will
Be forever lost in subjective perception. This is the pitfall .

Quality is perception, to give this name any meaning beyond this or
to speak of anything before perception is an exercise in unknowable
speculation.