[MD] The Trouble With Wilber

david buchanan dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Wed May 30 20:48:24 PDT 2007


dmb said:
He (Wilber) does not reject evolution...

Krimel replied:
Then please explain this:

>"Folks, give me a break on this one. I have a Master's degree in
>biochemistry, and a Ph.D. minus thesis in biochemistry and biophysics, with
>specialization in the mechanism of the visual process. I did my thesis on
>the photoisomerization of rhodopsin in bovine rod outer segments. I know
>evolutionary theory inside out, including the works of Dawkins et al. The
>material of mine that is being quoted is extremely popularized and
>simplified material for a lay audience. Publicly, virtually all scientists
>subscribe to neo-Darwinian theory. Privately, real scientists-that is, 
>those
>of us with graduate degrees in science who have professionally practiced
>it-don't believe hardly any of its crucial tenets. Instead of a religious
>preacher like Dawkins, start with something like Michael Behe's Darwin's
>Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution. And then guess what?
>Neo-Darwinian theory can't explain shit. Deal with it."

Krimel added:
This quote comes from a basically anti-Wilber website Vomiting Confetti but 
I can not find Wilber or his minions disavowing it. You are welcome to be 
the first.

dmb says:
I read the rest of his remarks at that blog with the lovely name and I don't 
see any need for disavowals. He goes on to complain that neo-Darwinism has 
holes in it big enough to drive a Hummer through and further complains that 
this leaves room for the creationists types to claim that Jesus is driving 
the Hummers. And, although he doesn't use the term, the problem is 
apparently that flatland materialism again. In any case, complaining about 
the holes in neo-Darwinism in particular is not a rejection of the theory of 
evolution in general. He thinks he has a better idea of evolution, one with 
holes only big enough to drive a moped through. And Jesus would never drive 
a moped, thank God.

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